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>>> new fallout from the nsa scandal. the united states disregarding leaker edward snowden's bid for clemency. his request coming days after a group of lawmakers introduced legislation to rein in the nsa's phone surveillance practices. joining us to talk about it, frederick white, former c.i.a. senior analyst and chief analyst for lignat.com. good to see you. a great many people hail ed snowden as a hero. there is no question he looks in the mirror and sees one. what do you see? >> i see a traitor, gregg. this is a man who has undermined the support of the american people for some programs that have kept us safe from terrorism. but more importantly, putting aside the controversy over the nsa collection issue, this man has leaked very sensitive u.s. collection capabilities to america's enemy, russia, china, cuba, north korea. it's laughable he thinks he should get clemency. >> lawmakers trying to rein in. so nsa surveillance program, the techniques being used. look, spying is the second oldest profession. i think we know w
>>> new fallout from the nsa scandal. the united states disregarding leaker edward snowden's bid for clemency. his request coming days after a group of lawmakers introduced legislation to rein in the nsa's phone surveillance practices. joining us to talk about it, frederick white, former c.i.a. senior analyst and chief analyst for lignat.com. good to see you. a great many people hail ed snowden as a hero. there is no question he looks in the mirror and sees one. what do you see?...
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person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama guaranteed, guaranteed the nsa wasn't reading our e-mails. the "washington post" reported that they infiltrated google and yahoo centers so they could in fact read the e-mails. do you think president obama was misinformed or uninformed? >> no. i think neither. i think he was informed but chose to tell the public things that he knew to be false. this has really been the nub of the story from the beginning. the top nsa officials lied to the congress about what the nsa does with regards to american communication and president obama repeatedly misled the public. in all sorts of ways, without warrants, the nsa is frequently mo
person, the nsa cannot listen to your telephone calls and the nsa cannot target your e-mails. >> and have not? >> and have not. they cannot and have not by law and by rule. >> well, this week we're learning the nsa might have broken into google and yahoo data centers gathering users' account information and maybe e-mails. in the hot seat for reaction, glenn greenwald, he's the journalist who broke the news on the nsa snooping scandal. welcome, glenn. president obama...
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that's for the nsa spying on american citizens. where is the committee looking into the nsa and those protected by the constitution. we have a committee spying on foreigners. how about our constitutional rights. >> the idea that she doesn't know. she is talking about -- that's the thing, for obama to say that i had no idea about the strategic nsa program after years of being in charge that defies belief. the president will not have the day-to-day information. to say he is not briefed in on these 30,000-foot programs forget about it. and then for the senator to say she had no idea, either they are twisting the reality for political purposes and that's what i believe they are doing or they are the world's most incurious, uninquiz tiff and uninterested people. >> can it be both? >> it could certainly be both. >> isn't that the commander-in-chief playbook though? it is the iran contra playbook a lot of i don't knows and this person did that and this person did this. >> that is absolutely true. there is always going to be an element of
that's for the nsa spying on american citizens. where is the committee looking into the nsa and those protected by the constitution. we have a committee spying on foreigners. how about our constitutional rights. >> the idea that she doesn't know. she is talking about -- that's the thing, for obama to say that i had no idea about the strategic nsa program after years of being in charge that defies belief. the president will not have the day-to-day information. to say he is not briefed in...
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i am the last to know. >> he wants the nsa to shrink. i don't think he is defending it because he wasn't crazy about it to begin with. >> he wants to be liked by angela merkel and the other european leaders. i was horrified when i found this out. >> you say he is lying. >> i have to go. now it is time for "red eye" sunset of the day. this comes from san diego, california. it is beautiful. the sunset of the day is brought to you by vacuum cleaners. they use an air part to suck up dust and dirt usually from floors. thank you, vacuum. >> no problem greg. >> and helping us solve the mysteries of lofl -- of life with a space cannon. i don't know or do i? >>> did mom and dad take away the ipad? they are urging parents to activity manage their children's use of computers, tv and tablets. excessive consumption has lead to obesity, lack of sleep and murder. among other recommendations keep the televisions and the gadgets out of kids' bedrooms. limit screen time to less than two hours a day and discourage all screen media exposure to children to a
i am the last to know. >> he wants the nsa to shrink. i don't think he is defending it because he wasn't crazy about it to begin with. >> he wants to be liked by angela merkel and the other european leaders. i was horrified when i found this out. >> you say he is lying. >> i have to go. now it is time for "red eye" sunset of the day. this comes from san diego, california. it is beautiful. the sunset of the day is brought to you by vacuum cleaners. they use an...
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they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be with "the baltimoresun" and i wrote back in 1985 and can say i was not shocked about any of this, but i think perhaps one of the most interesting questions these documents raise is i refer to the agency as an omnivore. they're under pressure from policymakers, from the white house, see -- cia, dod to the state department to sort of the prepared to supply information on almost anything. inrisis breaks out tomorrow an unexpected place, and nsa is under heavy pressure to produce intelligence from that place. and that combined with a big- budget in secrecy has, i think, created what actually secretary of state
they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be...
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one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content. let me be clear. under 215 the nsa cannot listen to anyone's phonecalls. what section 215 does is allow the government to connect the dots. these dots could have been connected to prevent 9/11 and are necessary to prevent the next attack. we could have determined one of the 9/11 attackers for hijackers was in san diego and made a call to an al qaeda number in yemen. i shudder to think what connections will be missed if the program were completely eliminated. keep in mind law enforcement obtains and analyzes these types of records every day to stop organized crime and keep drugs out. we don't wan
one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content....
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>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state wants this, department of state wants to know this. or somebody else wants to know that. priorities are ranked. as i understand it these are the priorities. one, terrorism. two, support of our military abroad. three, nuclear counter proliferation. four, hard targets. and now cyber. and those are the main areas. so essentially the nsa is told to do certain things and it does it. what i think we need to do, we work very well with the house committee and leadership, mike rogers and congressman rupersberger is review of the intelligence framework o
>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state...
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there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the senate intelligence committee is the position that is supposed to be devoted to overseeing the intelligence community, serving as a watchdog over it, and yet they've managed to put and install into that position, one of the most slavish devotees and loyalist of all of their powers. >> the people who are the ones who are supposed to be watching the intelligence agencies are the ones who end up being their biggest supporters and to some extent, the ones who try to rationalize every form of misconduct that ever gets displayed to us. >> as more and
there is no content collected by the nsa. there are bits of data: location, telephone numbers that can be queried when there is reasonable, articulable suspicion. i so regret what is happening. i will do everything i can to prevent this program from being cancelled out. senator, i don't have any questions. >> it is ironic that not only is diane feinstein, who's a democrat, one of the most devoted apologists of the nsa, the position that she occupies in the senate, which is chair of the...
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worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet on afghanistan and meet on drone use and meet on surelts. you saw dick cheney surveillance. they are still in the republican establishment a strong defense whatever the. in sa is doing. in the end it will be interesting to see whether or not the new coalition is the majority. >> charles, has any of this, as it's come out and steve is quite right because the initial headlines sometimes isn't backed up by what we find out, has any of it changed your mind about edward snowden and whether or not he is a whistle blower or somewhere on the spectrum to t
worried about the nsa spying on the pope. this is going to be a big issue in the end, i don't believe that they reach critical mass and actually make profound changes and i could be very wrong but i do think in the end there are too many people that back up this kind. >> wholly alliance? one could argue these are people whether they are liberals or libertarians concerned with privacy. >> alliance that tends to frustrate their party in their traditional base of their party. they meet...
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when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks pit the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operations. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. store and essentially they just get sold something. we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. before you invest in a mattress, discover the bed clinically proven to improve sleep quality. the sleep number bed. once you experience it, there's no going back. right now our queen mattress sets are just $1299-our lowest price ever! plus special financing until 2015. only at one of our 425 sleep number stores nationwide. sleep number. comfort individualized. i honestly never thought that someone would try to enter into my home without my permi
when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks pit the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operations. but isn't it time to turn the page on your cup of joe? gevalia, or a cup of johan, is like losing yourself in a great book. may i read something? yes, please. of course. a rich, never bitter taste cup after cup. net weight 340 grams. [ sighs ] [ chuckles ] [ announcer ] always rich, never bitter. gevalia. store and...
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if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address civil liberties and privacy issues that you're not doing? >> from my perspective, no. one of the things, and i was just going to have chris add one element if i could on here to your question. >> we'd actually just described a note to ourselves, but at nsa, the annual dollars we spend on this, the 30 million, and we have 300 full-time e qif lance, but what i scribed on the note is it's everybody's job. everyone has a role to play in compliance. we bring our employees in on their first day whether military or civilian, we give them all the oath of office, tell them it's to the constitution, the whole
if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address...
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for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that show the united states government was violating the law and abusing it's power. >> suddenly in my lap had dropped some of the most potent instruments for shining a light on what it is that they are doing, beyond your wildest dreams as a journalist. i had literally, physically couldn't breathe at points because of excitement and shock. >> the source was edward snowden. >> the nsa specifically targets the communications of everyone. it ingests them by default. it collects them in it's system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them. >> up to that point, the director of
for fear of being prosecuted. >> the nsa's goal really is the elimination of privacy globally. it is literally a system designed to monitor all forms of human behavior inside the united states, which is the ultimate surveillance state. >> last december, glenn greenwald received an email from a person who didn't identify himself. >> we still didn't know who he was, where he worked, but he was saying he had access to large amounts of very sensitive surveillance information that...
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when we come back, the nsa controversy grows. as a new round of leaks that the spy agency against the white house over who knew what about our overseas intelligence operati operations. [ coughs, sneezes ] i have a big meeting when we land, but i am so stuffed up, i can't rest. [ male announcer ] nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. they don't? alka seltzer plus night fights your worst cold symptoms, plus has a decongestant. [ inhales deeply ] oh. what a relief it is. tomato florentine soup, it took a little time to get it just right. [ ding ] ♪ but finally, it happened. perfection. at progresso, we've got a passion for quality, because you've got a passion for taste. [ male announcer ] they are a glowing example of what it means to be the best. and at this special time of year, they shine even brighter. come to the winter event and get the mercedes-benz you've always wished for, now for an exceptional price. [ santa ] ho, ho, ho, ho! [ male announcer ] lease the 2014 e350 for $579 a month at your local merce
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. >> nsa whistleblower edward snowden has been charged with espionage. but he wants to be let off the hook saying they are looking to criminalize a local speech in a letter friday the northbounding sa whistleblower asked for international hope to persuade the us to give him clemency. >> he violated u.s. law. he should return to the united states and face justice. >> snowden has also indicated that he would like to testify before congress withoabout the surveillance program but lawmakers wonsay that won't hap either. >> houston taking on the colts. the texans were rolling through the first half. andre johnson pulls in his third touchdown of the game. texans up 21-3. what we told you about texan's head coach gary kubiak collapsing it's down there from houston they go on to drop their 6th straight. 27-24. raider rs taking on the eagles. it was the colts the eagles quarterback shutting down the raider's defense for a record tieing 7 touchdown passes. connecting with riley cooper for three of his 7 touchdowns. finishing the became 406 yards, 7 touchdowns no i
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>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt game. but first, the country's third biggest airport fully up and running again, but underlying safety concerns after a man used an assault arrival to kill one tsa agent and badly injured two other people. paul ciancia is in critical condition after being shot multiple times by officers. he was carrying five high capacity magazines, a bag of ammo and happennd written lette explaining his rampage. gun control advocates say the incident is unlikely to spark any head way in the limit of gun sales. >>> later today, the president will speak at an organizing for action health care summit looking to rally grass roots su
>> edward snowden's nsa revelations reaching new heights, getting spoofed on snl. but now the leaker is seeking ce clemens city. >>> and toronto's embattled mayor says he will stay in office. >>> and the sbepgs intentional that was the youtube music awards. that's a real thing? it is? okay. this is "way too early". good morning. i'm bill karins in for brian shactman. it's monday, november 4th. we'll also show and you scary moment in last night's texas/colt...
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the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he says, i didn't know about it, no one told me about deputy director of the cia saying snowden is a trader. see if you change your opinion about what he did. was he a whistleblower, was he a trader? listen. >> i do not believe he is a whistleblower. i do not believe he is a hero. i think he betrayed his country. >> how serious a hit to national security? >> i think this is the most serious leak. the most serious compromise of classified information. >> because of the amount of it or the type? >> the amount and the type. >> you have to understand, bec
the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he...
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in other words, the nsa broke the law. of course there's more. an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope and some cardinals. sources say the magazine -- sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls possibly around the time the former pope benedict's successor was under discussion. possibly, it reports before the conclave that top secret meeting of cardinals. a vatican spokesman could not or at least would not verify the claims. man alive. >>> in the past hour, the justice department joined the lawsuit against the company called investigation services. the firm that vetted edward snowden. investigations services essentially gave the okay for snowden to handle top secret information before he leaked documents about spying. so that we're finding out about all this is ed snowden's fault, therefore everything is ed snowden's fault, certainly not the nsa. >>> meantime, russia is facing its own spy scandal. russian operatives gave goody bags a the the recent g-20 summit containing usb
in other words, the nsa broke the law. of course there's more. an italian magazine reports that the nsa may have spied on the pope and some cardinals. sources say the magazine -- sources at the magazine have been told that the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls possibly around the time the former pope benedict's successor was under discussion. possibly, it reports before the conclave that top secret meeting of cardinals. a vatican spokesman could not or at least would not verify the...
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the nsa says obama didn't know about this. we're supposed to believe he didn't know about the nsa until he heard -- the spying on merkel until he heard about it on the news? fast and furious, journalists being subpoenaed, consulate, irs -- >> no, he's being all inclusive -- >> so here's the point -- but, on the other hand, if they've data mined billions upon billions of phone calls, so anything good that happens, president obama takes credit for. anything that's bad that happens, he says, i didn't know about it, no one told me about it. that is the definition of not incompetence but lack of -- what's the word i'm looking for? >> less memory than a floppy disc. >> why you say -- >> -- like the french today, like obsessive -- >> i've never liked the french -- that aside, germany, particularly france, of all the countries in the world that have nothing to complain about. >> thought you were more obsessed with the chinese. you switched gears. i was watching fox news and i was glued to it. i was watching with shepard smith. you wer
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regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer after which it ended some of those programs. the senior administration official tells me the program that monitored the phone of german chancellor angela merkel did not end until quite recently. the white house today sidestepped any comment on that report while vaguely promising more accountability. >> we recognize that there need to be additional constraints on how we gather and use intelligence, but the president has directed us to review our surveillance capabilities. the entire review that is being led by the white house will be completed by the end of the year. >> the offi
regarding the nsa tapping the phones of nearly three dozen world leaders. add president obama himself to the list of those surprised to learn it was going on. a senior administration official tells me president obama did not learn until recently of the nsa surveillance of other world leaders including allies, confirming a report that first appeared in this morning's "wall street journal," citing u.s. officials that the white house did not know until an internal review over the summer...
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, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good likelihood. a lot of these individual reforms are incorporated into broader nsa reform bills that have been introduced. when it comes to the chances of these bills passing, there is bipartisan support, which is something is unusual around congress. bipartisan support can move these. this is something the jan schakowsky said today at the hearing. >> the two individuals who wrote , one republican, one democrat -- yes, one republican, one democrat -- who wrote the usa patriot act shortly after 9/11 have now introduced the usa freedom act that essentially would repeal many of the aspects and change them, of the pa
, which the court has given the nsa the authority to scoop up all of our phone metadata that the nsa -- that the romance have been revealed -- that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden. it could put the country at risk and leave the u.s. open to another terrorist attack. they were not open to that reform in particular. but the other reforms come out some of them, they were open to. >> -- but the other reforms, some of them, they were open to. there is a pretty good...
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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the vociferous criticism that officials have leveled at the snowden leaks and at him and the press for publishing them, it is not all about terrorism. he keeps saying loorks, they want us to believe that everything that's being leaked is just about life and death terrorism. but it's not. there are a lot of other revelations, a lot of revelations about economic and commercial and industrial espionage. there are a lot of revelations obviously which started the firestorm of protests around the world. about spying and collecting metadata from ordinary citizens. that is what really drives glen green wald r
spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the...
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nsa has been tracking phone calls of 35 world leaders. a lack of trust that could harm the partnership and washington. germany is harboring with brazil for a u.n. resolution. a diplomat said the anger is unlikely to go beyond formal statements. >> on the longer-term after the media has toned down the bigger issue, it will go on as business as usual. that is my expectation. that would not be any real measures. their problem is not that they are spying. the problem is that in a band called as spying. -- that they have been called at spying. they do it for economic reasons. they want to know what europe is going to do. they are afraid that are losing ground. >> shockwaves are being felt. thousands rallied in washington, d.c. venting their anger against nsa and calling for reform. it was billed as the largest in american history. we have more. >> thousands of people gathered on the anniversary of the signing of the patriot act 12 years ago. they believe it was the day and the name of fighting terror their rights were taken away. they believe
nsa has been tracking phone calls of 35 world leaders. a lack of trust that could harm the partnership and washington. germany is harboring with brazil for a u.n. resolution. a diplomat said the anger is unlikely to go beyond formal statements. >> on the longer-term after the media has toned down the bigger issue, it will go on as business as usual. that is my expectation. that would not be any real measures. their problem is not that they are spying. the problem is that in a band called...
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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we can't assume that everything will with the nsa as a comparable agency. there was an article in "the new york times" i guess on the 28th -- i won't quote from it or do you want to quote from it? >> this is an article by james ricin and laura at september 20. the agency can augment the come indications. >> that's the nsa. >> data with material from public commercial and other sources including bank codes insurance information facebook profiles passenger manifests voter registration rolls and gps location information as well as property records and unless testified tax data according to the documents. they do not indicate any restrictions on the use of such quote enrichment data in several former senior obama administration officials said the agency drew on it from both americans and foreigners. >> with that description we can assume that every bit of data out there, every purchase, every meal, every phonecall, every e-mail and because of the ability of supercomputers to digest this material is available. one would have to be extremely naÏve to think this
we can't assume that everything will with the nsa as a comparable agency. there was an article in "the new york times" i guess on the 28th -- i won't quote from it or do you want to quote from it? >> this is an article by james ricin and laura at september 20. the agency can augment the come indications. >> that's the nsa. >> data with material from public commercial and other sources including bank codes insurance information facebook profiles passenger manifests...
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using information leaked by nsa contractor edward snowden, a spanish newspaper reported the nsa collected numbers and locations of the phone calls, but not actual content. this after learning that the nsa has also been tuning into the communications up dirty five world leaders. now the european union parliamentary delegation is preparing for a visit to the u.s. to express concerns over nsa surveillance tactics. political commentator sam sacks brings us more. >> german intelligence officials will come to washington dc to demand answers from the white house about surveillance on chancellor angela merkel. is a marked the partner from just a few months ago, when germany was defending its foes cooperation with the nsa. that was after edward snowden leak in june that the nsa was collecting a half ilya and telephone and internet telik communications every month. chancellor angela merkel was put to defend her government's cooperation with the nsa, saying it prevented terrorist attacks. we can only protect the population if we cooperate with others, her office said. edward snowden describe the coz
using information leaked by nsa contractor edward snowden, a spanish newspaper reported the nsa collected numbers and locations of the phone calls, but not actual content. this after learning that the nsa has also been tuning into the communications up dirty five world leaders. now the european union parliamentary delegation is preparing for a visit to the u.s. to express concerns over nsa surveillance tactics. political commentator sam sacks brings us more. >> german intelligence...
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. >> one report from a german tabloid indicated that president obama knew that the nsa was tapping the phone of the german chance explore he allowed it to continue, again, german tabloid, a spokeswoman for the agency says that is simply not true. and "the wall street journal" reports the nsa stop monitoring chancellor merkel and other leaders after a white house review uncovered the operations. "the wall street journal" again. meanwhile, a state department spokeswoman says our ambassador to spain met with officials there to discuss reports that the nsa tracked more than 60 million phone calls in that country in one month. dana perino was the press secretary under george w. bush, the 43rd, president bush, 43, and this was happening under bush 43rd. >> i suppose. i don't get the outrage. i don't. i can mott believe the white house said we're going to have to curtail our operations, our intelligence, because they were embarrassed over a report. there's a reason they call it top secret. it is top secret, and i bet you any of these countries that are in any of this news stores are trying to
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>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were targeted with similar forms of surveillance. this is often done through the way people pretend to be diplomats stationed there for what pretends to be a consulate but really is and nsa outpost. inexploits its positioning the nation capital under diplomatic treaties to target the population and a leading democratically elected leaders with very invasive surveillance. itself, thesy placement, this massive embassy building the u.s. moved into in 2008? >> right. the der spiegel report is using a document that demonstrates that embassy is ess
>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were...
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. >> but egypt has been one nation with strained relations with our country, from the reporting nsa spying on world leaders that has outraged them, to unhappiness with our policy over egypt. it seems a growing list of nations angry at america. what happened? >> john bolton is a fox news contributor, former u.s. ambassador to the nations, and he joins us from jerusalem this morning. good morning. >> good morning, eric. how are you? >> egypt suspended millions of dollars in aid. it seems in doing so, washington has isolated the islamists and the military. what happened? >> there's almost no one in egypt today who will stand up and defend the united states, the administration's position over the last two years has varied like a metronome, and so bad is it that kerry had to arrive in cairo under the same procedures that are used when he would visit a war zone like afghanistan. the first time an american secretary of state has faced that. with the trial, as you mentioned, of former president mohamed morsi about to begin tomorrow, the risk of instability in egypt remains very high. >> woucould t
. >> but egypt has been one nation with strained relations with our country, from the reporting nsa spying on world leaders that has outraged them, to unhappiness with our policy over egypt. it seems a growing list of nations angry at america. what happened? >> john bolton is a fox news contributor, former u.s. ambassador to the nations, and he joins us from jerusalem this morning. good morning. >> good morning, eric. how are you? >> egypt suspended millions of dollars...
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all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer. joining us here is our guest, all about protecting companies. a lawyer specializing in intellectual property, information technology, the list runs long. and from the research center on intelligence. thank you for joining the conversation. many of you have been joining the conversation. i want to start with the latest. not washington, berlin, or madrid, but london. unless the newspapers begin to behave more responsibly, his government is likely to act to stop papers from publishing what he calls damaging leaks by edward snowden. what do you think of that? >> david camer
all the work of the nsa. former nsa contractor edward snowden uncovered it. it the steady drip of revelations about the u.s.'s eavesdropping agency is a full- blown gusher. spying isn't new, but cell phoes and computers are. can rules be agreed upon and binding e they have final say. the $52 billion u.s. intelligence. the white house denies an allegation that barack obama was personally briefed in 2010 about spying on the germans. will it wash? is the nsa out of control? a retired cia officer....
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this time about the nsa tapping world alabalealleys. fault lines correspondent explores what it is like to live under constant surveillance. ♪ >> in many ways the nsa surveillance story can seem abstract. sure the sgovment collecting information, but what does that really mean for someone's life? to fine out we went to meet a group of people who definitely know they are being spied on. >> after 9/11 it wasn't just the nsa that increased surveillance. here at the city level in new york, the nypd brought in to senior officials from the cia to help spy on its own citizens. the program is targeting one community, muslims. secret documents show that the nypd is conducting surveillance of entire muslim neighborhoods. >> they visited book stores, cafes, hookah joints, of course mosques. >> reporter: and record conversations using hidden microphones, collect the names and phone gragaits. >> how were they reacting to foreign events abroad, the egyptian revolution or the cartoons about the profit mohammed, what were they saying in the surmonth.
this time about the nsa tapping world alabalealleys. fault lines correspondent explores what it is like to live under constant surveillance. ♪ >> in many ways the nsa surveillance story can seem abstract. sure the sgovment collecting information, but what does that really mean for someone's life? to fine out we went to meet a group of people who definitely know they are being spied on. >> after 9/11 it wasn't just the nsa that increased surveillance. here at the city level in new...
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to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you would find in any nation states in the european union. >> . >> computer networks inside the european union for what they are up to. >> absolutely. >> whow about al quaida, could they use, is it possible for them to use the networks found in the european union to conduct planning operations or execution of operations? >> could. absolutely. >> and would bit in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities especially if it went through the european union and maybe even targeted at the united states o
to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you...
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onlyrities, to the nsa, under a court warrant approved by this court. here is where the problem comes into being. those legal restrictions only apply to users who reside on the territory of the united states. what this report says is basically that the nsa has been going through servers around the world because of course google, yahoo!, others among them who were not in the report have a lot of servers not just on u.s. soil but all over the place. many are in europe. what the nsa effectively is allegedly doing is by tapping into those servers on foreign territories, it is not subject to the u.s. court. it is not subject to any restrictions or at least very loose restrictions, very weak oversight. essentially.g them what they are doing it by tapping into this data, into the servers, these centers in europe, you are scooping up millions and millions of records. video, can contain text, audio, all the stuff that you sent back and forth. sure, they say that their job is to get only foreigners, suspected foreigner's intelligence, but of course there are a lo
onlyrities, to the nsa, under a court warrant approved by this court. here is where the problem comes into being. those legal restrictions only apply to users who reside on the territory of the united states. what this report says is basically that the nsa has been going through servers around the world because of course google, yahoo!, others among them who were not in the report have a lot of servers not just on u.s. soil but all over the place. many are in europe. what the nsa effectively is...
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. >>> a just paper has released a further report on classified documents from a former nsa contractor. it says japan may be among countries spied on by the u.s.. >>> and residents of the resort city of sochi are in a whirl of activity three months ahead of the winter olympics. >>> chinese officials are tightening security in beijing ahead of a key meeting. the increased measures follow last week's fatal car crash near tiananmen square which the government teamdeemed an act of terror. officials have been ordered to quash acts of terrorism in the planning stage. the website shed quo inspected police boxes in the capital on monday. he urged police officers to increase their visibility so citizens will feel safer and said china faces a tough fight against terrorism. he called for extra vigilance. last week a sport utility vehicle veered into a crowd of tourists and burst into flames. three passengers were killed along with two by stapders. chinese authorities arrested five in connection with the skept. all are believed to be members of the uighur minority group. the third plenary is due t
. >>> a just paper has released a further report on classified documents from a former nsa contractor. it says japan may be among countries spied on by the u.s.. >>> and residents of the resort city of sochi are in a whirl of activity three months ahead of the winter olympics. >>> chinese officials are tightening security in beijing ahead of a key meeting. the increased measures follow last week's fatal car crash near tiananmen square which the government teamdeemed...
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thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span. have they taken control of speech -- a c-span, too? what was your comment about? caller: i just wanted to register my complaint about it. host: what was your complaint about overall? caller: that this is a terrible thing. we have had our freedom taken away from us. we have no privacy whatsoever. if they want your phone calls, they get it. if they want your e-mails, they get it. whatever they want. not just here, all around the world. host: did you have concerns about the recent stories about monitoring activities? caller: yes. they
thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span....
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. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, brian. the tech companies worry they are losing an arm's race with the nsa which nbc news confirms has been hacking into google and yahoo data centers around the world as fast as the company has put up firewalls. vacuuming up e-mail and phone records. google and yahoo data centers in all corners of the globe reach targets by data collection by nsa and british intelligence. as first reported in the "washington post" they found more documents leaked by edward snowden, hundreds of thousands of e-mails, search queries and other activity collected, decoded and filtered and possible intelli
. >>> now to this widening and nsa spying story. all of it coming by leaks by the former u.s. defense contractor edward snowden. tonight's revelations involve very big names in the internet and e-mail world. now big companies are calling for new privacy laws to stop u.s. intelligence agencies from breaking into their data overseas. for more on all of it we turn to our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in our d.c. newsroom tonight. andrea, good evening. >>...
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general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in pakistan was that in questions when we were accused of violating the sovereignty of pakistan to kill osama bin laden, one of the counter arguments made from our side was that pakistan does not control the entire sovereignty of its country. the pakistani army does not extend its writ to the border f afghanistan. that is one of the reasons america has to take other measures. what i am getting at is be careful about the solidity of sovereignty. it is a spongy concept in a lot of the countries we are dealing with. second, the idea of how this has changed over the last 18 years. th
general keith has said the nsa and the cyber threat commands with the u.s. army are indistinguishable. what is the potential impact with the right to protect with domestic issues and foreign issues? a classic example would be with the mexican cartels and all instances across the mexican border and with syria. >> want to start domestic and go foreign or start foreign and go domestic? one of the problems on overeignty is the actual definition of sovereignty. one of the problems we had in...
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so, look, here's the cia, i mean the nsa chief saying these things, the nsa spying on diplomats at the request of ambassadors. what do you say about that? rick? >> i have to agree. there are a lot of am pabassado around the world that really want to know what's happening from the other side the aisle so to speak. so there's a lot of requests that go back to agency personnel. the sip pell fact is the agency personnel is only responding to the policymakers. the politicians and others feel the pressure from those in the field who want the intelligence and they're the ones who are responding. they don't make the rules. if you want to change the rules, lobby congress or get congress, the congressional oversight committees, to be aggressive. >> the challenge came from james caru rosepep, a former u.s. ambassador to romania during the clinton administration, and he now a democratic state senator in maryland. during this exchange between the two, with general alexander, he was pressing the nsa chief to give a, quote, national security justification for the agency's surveillance for combating t
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but in a few hours' time the director of national intelligence and the director of the nsa will face congressional grilling. we will talk with our correspondent in washington after this story by bernard smith. >>> this could be about to end. in an interview, president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose: to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> this has partly been prompted by reports in germany that president obama was briefed on the surveillance of chancellor angela merkel's phone in 2010. officials say that's not true and the white house only discovered surveillance in the summer and the bugging of merkel's phone soon after. the delegation that's visiting is concerned about the surveillance of tens of millions of its citizens. calls in the country in the space of a month. >> we need to figure out why this kind of activity is happening and what kind of trust needs to be rebuilt. in the end we're fighting a battle in
but in a few hours' time the director of national intelligence and the director of the nsa will face congressional grilling. we will talk with our correspondent in washington after this story by bernard smith. >>> this could be about to end. in an interview, president barack obama says that national security operations generally have one purpose: to make sure the american people are safe. but i'm initiating now a review to make sure what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what...
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the nsa is collecting all of this data. revelations coming out with the snowden revelations. >> it's getting more scrutiny than it did before. what is interesting is it wasn't until the white house launched this interagency review that they started figuring out what was going on. there has been this call for nsa transparency but probably the first place they should start with transparency should be within the government a little bit. what has been interesting, the revelation versus led to more transparency, but some of that has been forcing the government to also put out more information far beyond what mr. snowden has put out. >> in crawlly, you served in the state department is it possible that the white house didn't necessarily know what the nsa is doing with their collecting and whether or not they're spying on world leaders? >> it's absolutely like i he didn't know. the president said he didn't know. the president provides strategic guidance but the tactical decisions of how you go about getting the information that le
the nsa is collecting all of this data. revelations coming out with the snowden revelations. >> it's getting more scrutiny than it did before. what is interesting is it wasn't until the white house launched this interagency review that they started figuring out what was going on. there has been this call for nsa transparency but probably the first place they should start with transparency should be within the government a little bit. what has been interesting, the revelation versus led to...
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german lawmaker he sent a letter to the german government offering his help in investigating alleged nsa spying on german but coming to germany does not appear to be an option for snowden now over to get more on that from our chief political correspondent in just a moment but first this report dozens of journalists crowded and the press conference to hear what comes to stand some of them had to say about his meeting with edward snowdon and his letter to the german government. snowden potentially speak to german investigators or politicians or even travel to germany to be interviewed for stand up to envisage coming to gemini is a guaranteed he would often with the secure in germany or in the comparable country and that's the guise of not dying from orange dog sees god is. snowdon told the green party politician he would prefer to testify in russia. president putin has granted him asylum there. as long as he keeps a low political profile. so could this mean german asylum for the former intelligence analyst. earlier this year the german interior ministry said he did not fulfill conditions r
german lawmaker he sent a letter to the german government offering his help in investigating alleged nsa spying on german but coming to germany does not appear to be an option for snowden now over to get more on that from our chief political correspondent in just a moment but first this report dozens of journalists crowded and the press conference to hear what comes to stand some of them had to say about his meeting with edward snowdon and his letter to the german government. snowden...
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the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster on top of the p.r. disaster. now an international p.r. disaster? it's coming precisely at the wrong time for the administration. but i think it's a normal thing. >> i don't think it's just a p.r. disaster, charles. i think it's this nsa system set up under bush and cheney which obama has refused to stare down. i think it's a juggernaut that's out of control. hoovering up so much information, untram meld powers and taken this kind of surveillance to a whole new comprehensive level that picks up all the stuff. >> the fundamental principle has not changed if you
the nation's top nsa officials went before congress today. without copping to specifics, director of national intelligence said in so many words yeah of course we spy on our allies. they spy on us. it's been going on for decades. is it naive to expect less? is this what countries do to each other? >> i think on some level you should expect that, right? how you're supposed to take your allies' words they're always going to be allies? that's just natural. the big issue it's a p.r. disaster...